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[Veritas-bu] No response concerning tape alert?

2006-02-02 14:38:55
Subject: [Veritas-bu] No response concerning tape alert?
From: Len.Boyle AT sas DOT com (Len Boyle)
Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 14:38:55 -0500
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Hello Justin,
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If you are using an ACS library you have to turn off the use of tape =
alert flag. We had problems with the library hanging up, and found a =
veritas tech note that called for turning off cleaning of the tape =
drives with netbackup. The library handles the task.=20
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We also have an IBM 3584 library with the ALMS feature, and this calls =
for controlling the cleaning of tape drives by the library and not =
netbackup.=20
=20
len

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From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu =
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Justin =
Piszcz
Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 1:45 PM
To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] No response concerning tape alert?


Anyone have any response to this e-mail concerning the tape alert flag?
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Hi,
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I have recently moved to new environment, which actively uses the tape =
alert setting in Veritas and has cleaning tapes assigned etc.
The drives used are HP-Ultrium2-LTO2, the same in the previous =
environment, which I was responsible for.
=20
As I recall in the NetBackup with LTO2 drives I read somewhere or a =
previous thread on this mailing list, it is not recommended to turn this =
feature on as it causes more probolems than it fixes?  Can using the =
TapeAlert settings cause more drives to go down than normal?=20
=20
I am trying to figure that part out as my previous main environment had =
8 LTO2 drives which did not use tapealert.
=20
The new environment has many more drives but they all use tape alert, =
does anyone have any experience in large or small environments using =
tape alert?  I've always seen and followed the standard placing the =
NO_TAPE_ALERT file in /usr/openv/volmgr/somewhere as it had never run in =
the past in the previous environment so I saw no reason to run it.  I =
realize the drives will get dirty after a certain amount of use and need =
to be cleaned.  However, I have spoken with StorageTek in the past and =
they do not recommend cleaning the drives very often; although I guess =
that would depend on the use the drives see as well.=20
=20
Ultimately, I'd like to know:
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1) Who uses tape alert?
2) Have you tried backups for an extended period of time with it on and =
off?
3) Does it create more problems than it fixes?
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Thanks,

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<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D211372719-02022006><FONT =
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color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>Hello Justin,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>If you are using an ACS library you have to =
turn off the=20
use of tape alert flag. We had problems with the library hanging up, and =
found a=20
veritas tech note that called for turning off cleaning of the tape =
drives with=20
netbackup. The library handles the task. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D211372719-02022006><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
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face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>We also have an IBM 3584 library with the ALMS =
feature, and=20
this calls for controlling the cleaning of tape drives by the library =
and not=20
netbackup. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D211372719-02022006><FONT =
face=3DArial=20
color=3D#0000ff size=3D2></FONT></SPAN>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr align=3Dleft><SPAN class=3D211372719-02022006><FONT =
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color=3D#0000ff size=3D2>len</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=3DTahoma size=3D2><B>From:</B> =
veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu=20
[mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] <B>On Behalf Of =
</B>Justin=20
Piszcz<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, February 02, 2006 1:45 PM<BR><B>To:</B> =

veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Veritas-bu] No =
response=20
concerning tape alert?<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV>Anyone have any response to this e-mail concerning the tape alert=20
flag?</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Hi,</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I have recently moved to new environment, which actively uses the =
tape=20
alert setting in Veritas and has cleaning tapes assigned etc.</DIV>
<DIV>The drives used are HP-Ultrium2-LTO2, the same in the previous =
environment,=20
which I was responsible for.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>As I recall in the NetBackup with LTO2 drives I read somewhere or a =

previous thread on this mailing list, it is not recommended to turn this =
feature=20
on as it causes more probolems than it fixes?&nbsp; Can using the =
TapeAlert=20
settings cause more drives to go down than normal? </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>I am trying to figure that part out as my previous main environment =
had 8=20
LTO2 drives which did not use tapealert.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>The new environment has many more drives but they all use tape =
alert, does=20
anyone have any experience in large or small environments using tape=20
alert?&nbsp; I've always seen and followed the standard placing the=20
NO_TAPE_ALERT file in /usr/openv/volmgr/somewhere as it had never run in =
the=20
past in the previous environment so I saw no reason to run it.&nbsp; I =
realize=20
the drives will get dirty after a certain amount of use and need to be=20
cleaned.&nbsp; However, I have spoken with StorageTek in the past and =
they do=20
not recommend cleaning the drives very often; although I guess that =
would depend=20
on the use the drives see as well. </DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Ultimately, I'd like to know:</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>1) Who uses tape alert?</DIV>
<DIV>2) Have you tried backups for an extended period of time with it on =
and=20
off?</DIV>
<DIV>3) Does it create more problems than it fixes?</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Thanks,</DIV></BODY></HTML>

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