Re: [Veritas-bu] open files to be backed up
2010-03-22 11:21:34
The keyword in your statement is "down". You can backup
any database that is down, their just regular files. It's while the database is
running that the problem arises.
Regards,
Patrick
Whelan NetBackup Specialist Wholesale Markets and
Treasury & Trading Lloyds Banking Group
Desk: +44 (0) 207 158
6123 Loc:
OBS 2C-132
I don’t know how it
works on Windows since we use the SQL agents but on UNIX/Linux you can backup
database files from the filesystem so long as the database is down at the time
you do it. You can then restore from that backup to the same filesystems
or to an alternate server and/or filesystems.
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[mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Whelan, Patrick Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 10:10
AM To:
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backed up
It's not a matter of
whether you can or can not backup an open file, it's the type of open file that
you are backing up. If it is a database file and the database isn't aware that
you are backing up its file the file will not be in a state that the database
can use if/when you restore it. MOST database consist of more than one file so
the current file that is being backed up will be in one state whereas the next
file will be in a different state and so on. So that when the files are restored
they will all be in different "positions" and the database won't know how to
reconcile that difference. Database can be backed up without agents but the
database must be in control of the backup in order to insure a stable
environment for the restore. I hope this makes
sense.
Regards,
Patrick Whelan
NetBackup
Specialist Wholesale Markets and Treasury
& Trading Lloyds
Banking Group Desk: +44 (0) 207 158 6123 Loc: OBS
2C-132
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[mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Martin, Jonathan Sent: 22 March 2010 14:04 To:
VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] open files to be
backed up
Didn’t Curtis’
book include some information on backing up databases without the database
agent?
I was waiting for
the plug. =P
-Jonathan
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[mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of SACHIN ARORA Sent: Saturday, March 20, 2010 11:01
AM To: Justin
Piszcz Cc:
VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] open files to be
backed up
Hovewer, i'm kinda illetrate in this...can you
elaborate "you need a connector to backup
databases"
Can't these filed be backed up via open file file
backup (VSS/VSP)
On Sat, Mar 20, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Justin Piszcz <jpiszcz AT lucidpixels DOT com>
wrote:
Hi,
MDF is a SQL Server Express DB file, you will
have problems backing them up if they keep changing when you back them up.
Usually you need a connector to backup databases.
Justin.
On Sat, 20 Mar 2010, SACHIN ARORA
wrote:
Hi All,
I have a small issue here
:
Backup of one of the server is getting partially
successfull
Master : Solaris 10 , netbackup 6.5.4 Client : window 2003
, netbackup 6.5.4
Here the files that are not getting backed up
:
03/19/2010 21:31:38 - Warning bpbrm (pid=14837) from client : WRN -
can't open file: D:\Program Files\Microsoft
SQL Server\MSSQL\Data\Audit_DB_Data.MDF (WIN32 32: The process cannot access
the file because it is being used by another process. ) 03/19/2010
21:31:39 - Warning bpbrm (pid=14837) from client : WRN - can't open file:
D:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL\Data\Audit_DB_Log.LDF (WIN32 32:
The process cannot access the file because it is being used by another
process. ) 03/19/2010 21:31:40 - Warning bpbrm (pid=14837) from client : WRN
- can't open file: D:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL
Server\MSSQL\Data\crnmr4_Data.MDF (WIN32 32: The process cannot access the
file because it is being used by another process. ) 03/19/2010 21:31:41 -
Warning bpbrm (pid=14837) from client : WRN - can't open file: D:\Program
Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL\Data\crnmr4_Log.LDF (WIN32 32: The process
cannot access the file because it is being used by another process.
) 03/19/2010 21:31:41 - Warning bpbrm (pid=14837) from client : WRN -
can't open file: D:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL
Server\MSSQL\Data\master.mdf (WIN32 32: The process cannot access the file
because it is being used by another process. ) 03/19/2010 21:31:42 -
Warning bpbrm (pid=14837) from client : WRN - can't open file: D:\Program
Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL\Data\mastlog.ldf (WIN32 32: The process
cannot access the file because it is being used by another process.
) 03/19/2010 21:31:43 - Warning bpbrm (pid=14837) from client : WRN -
can't open file: D:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL\Data\model.mdf
(WIN32 32: The process cannot access the file because it is being used by
another process. ) 03/19/2010 21:31:44 - Warning bpbrm (pid=14837) from
client : WRN - can't open file: D:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL
Server\MSSQL\Data\modellog.ldf (WIN32 32: The process cannot access the file
because it is being used by another process. ) 03/19/2010 21:31:45 -
Warning bpbrm (pid=14837) from client : WRN - can't open file: D:\Program
Files\Microsoft SQL Server\MSSQL\Data\msdbdata.mdf (WIN32 32: The process
cannot access the file because it is being used by another process.
) 03/19/2010 21:31:46 - Warning bpbrm (pid=14837) from client : WRN -
can't open file: D:\Program Files\Microsoft SQL
Server\MSSQL\Data\msdblog.ldf (WIN32 32: The process cannot access the file
because it is being used by another process. ) 03/19/2010 21:59:29 - end
writing; write time: 0:58:17 the requested operation was partially successful
(1)
I want these files to be backed up. I tried Disabled Open file
backup and refired backup - -- still didnot backup these files Selcted --
Enabled VSP , Individual drive snapshot, Abort on error -- refired backup --
still didnot backup these files Selcted -- Enabled VSS , Individual drive
snapshot, Abort on error -- refired backup -- still didnot backup these
files
Can sombody help me how to get these files to be backed up. its a
production server , need to fix this
quickly
Thanks Sachin
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