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Re: [Veritas-bu] Remote Online Backups

2008-03-28 13:16:37
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Remote Online Backups
From: "Ambrose, Monte" <mambrose AT qualcomm DOT com>
To: Curtis Preston <cpreston AT glasshouse DOT com>, "Martin, Jonathan" <JMARTI05 AT intersil DOT com>, "VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu" <VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu>
Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 09:52:45 -0700
We use riverbed in many sites but not specifically for Backup/Restore. I did 
test it with NetBackup and it performed quite well.   The nice thing about 
Riverbed is that you can use it for other applications that transfer data as 
well.  If you use a point product like PureDisk for backups then you only get 
the de-dupe/compression for the backup.  We use PureDisk and it works quite 
well for this purpose.  The down side I see to Riverbed is that you must 
install a hardware device on both ends.  Its sometimes easier to just install 
the backup app on the systems that need to be backed up.  - Monte

-----Original Message-----
From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu 
[mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Curtis 
Preston
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 10:48 PM
To: Martin, Jonathan; VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Remote Online Backups

Right.  That's what I've heard -- that it's a great WAN-acceleration
product.  What I haven't bought off on, though, is this concept of "just
use your regular backup software and pretend like these hosts aren't on
the other side of the planet and back them up across the WAN."

I usually keep opinions like this to myself.  The SPAM thing just made
me feel like

---
W. Curtis Preston
Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com
VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies

> -----Original Message-----
> From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu [mailto:veritas-bu-
> bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Martin, Jonathan
> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 5:28 AM
> To: VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Remote Online Backups
>
>
> I dislike spam too, but lets not go throwing the Riverbed product
under
> the bus because of it. =P
>
> We did a pretty thorough analysis of the Riverbed product versus three
> major competitors two years ago and found that *by far* Riverbed was
the
> best "WAN Acceleration" device on the market.  We've since deployed
them
> to just about every remote site we have globally.  I haven't seen this
> "Riverbed Copy Utility" and when we implemented the point was *not* to
do
> remote backups - rather to speed up the movement of data from
centralized
> datacenters to various remote offices (which the product does very
well,
> with various SMB, NFS and MAPI requests.)  Their product also
> significantly lessened the time it takes to replicate data to DR.
>
> -Jonathan
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu on behalf of Curtis
> Preston
> Sent: Wed 3/26/2008 1:28 AM
> To: VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Remote Online Backups
>
>
>
> Message and poster dealt with.
>
> I don't normally post my personal opinions about products, but for
some
> reason right now I feel inspired.
>
> I don't get the whole Riverbed thing.  I don't see any advantages in
the
> backup arena over using a more standard dedupe appliance or dedupe
> backup software, and I see a few disadvantages.
>
> Riverbed, if you're listening, you haven't made a friend today by
using
> my website to post SPAM, but I am willing to listen if you want to
> convince me otherwise.
>
> ---
> W. Curtis Preston
> Backup Blog @ www.backupcentral.com
> VP Data Protection, GlassHouse Technologies
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu [mailto:veritas-bu-
> > bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Mark.Donaldson AT cexp 
> > DOT com
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 7:57 AM
> > To: VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> > Subject: Re: [Veritas-bu] Remote Online Backups
> >
> > FYI: abuse@backupcentral notified, management at Riverbed
Technologies
> > notified.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> > [mailto:veritas-bu-bounces AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of
> > rubbyfiller
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 12:59 AM
> > To: VERITAS-BU AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> > Subject: [Veritas-bu] Remote Online Backups
> >
> >
> > Performing backups at every remote site is complicated, expensive
and
> > risky too. Doing backup across the WAN is easier, reliable, and more
> > secure.
> >
> > Have you experimented Riverbed Copy Utility (RCU)?
> > It would be a great fit.
> > By overcoming bandwidth limitations and reducing network latency,
> > Riverbed's WDS facilitates network-based backup approaches in most
of
> > the customer environments. Riverbed technology optimizes:
> > 1.    Centralized backup and recovery of servers and desktop
machines
> > in remote offices
> > 2.    Replication of centralized data repositories between data
> > centers
> >
> > in your distributed enterprise for backing up large amounts of data.
> > RCU for disaster recovery can also be used for your remote backup
> > solution just as effectively.
> >
> > http://www.wdsforum.org/forum/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=10
> >
> >
>
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