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[Veritas-bu] I need some additional help to backup oracle.

2006-11-27 10:26:20
Subject: [Veritas-bu] I need some additional help to backup oracle.
From: ckstehman at pepco.com (ckstehman AT pepco DOT com)
Date: Mon, 27 Nov 2006 10:26:20 -0500
It is an add-on that you need to purchase from Symantec and install 
separately.  It interfaces RMAN to the tape backups managed by
Netbackup


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Carl Stehman
IT Distributed Services Team
Pepco Holdings, Inc.
202-331-6619
Pager 301-765-2703
ckstehman at pepco.com



Krzys <krzys at perfekt.net> 
11/27/2006 10:00 AM

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veritas-bu-bounces at mailman.eng.auburn.edu, Ed Wilts <ewilts at ewilts.org>
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Re: [Veritas-bu] I need some additional help to backup oracle.






Oracle agent, is that some additional software I need to download and 
install? 
or is it already installed in my backup server/slient installation but I 
just 
need to enable it on a server with a license?

Thanks.

Chris


On Sun, 26 Nov 2006, ckstehman at pepco.com wrote:

> I also recommend that you use the oracle agent...  There is no need to
> shut down the databases, and it is much faster.
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> Carl Stehman
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> Pepco Holdings, Inc.
> 202-331-6619
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> ckstehman at pepco.com
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> Dominik.J.Pietrzykowski at nab.com.au
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> I recommend you use the agents. They will do cold backups when the
> database is free although they will fail
> when the DB is busy. So you need to choose a time when the DB will be
> quiet and can be quiesced.
> Otherwise you need to do hot backups with logs etc. This is what i
> recommend.
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> Ed Wilts <ewilts at ewilts.org>
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> On 11/22/2006 1:25 PM, Krzys wrote:
>> You guys are so much more helpfull than any other place... even with
> symantec
>> support I dont get that much support as from you guys, but anyway I 
have
>
>> netbackup and one of the backup clients is running oracle. In my
> previous job
>> DBA's were doing cold/hot backups and they just dumped files to
> directories that
>> I then backed up, in this job culture I guess is sligtly different so
> DBA's told
>> me that this is my job to do backups... So anyway for the cold backup
> they
>> provided me with stop script to stop oracle databases (I know its not 
to
> good
>> and it causes all sorts of problems if database would not came back 
etc)
> But
>> despite those aspects what would I need to do to acomplish this task of
> backing
>> up system with oracle down...
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> Don't even go there.  Believe me, you *will* have issues.  You *will*
> leave databases down when they're supposed to be up.  You *will* be
> phoned and yelled at.  Your DBAs *will* be phoned and yelled at.
>
> Your previous job's approach is tolerable - it's what we do here today
> (until we get the agents into production).  The approach they want in
> your current job is NOT a good idea.  It sucks.  It breaks randomly.  It
> leaves databases down.  Don't try it.  You'll be sorry.
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>                .../Ed
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> -- 
> Ed Wilts, Mounds View, MN, USA
> mailto:ewilts at ewilts.org
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