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[Veritas-bu] backup speed

2006-03-21 07:29:29
Subject: [Veritas-bu] backup speed
From: andrew.x.smith AT jpmchase DOT com (andrew.x.smith AT jpmchase DOT com)
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2006 12:29:29 +0000
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If you think the rest of your NetBackup and network infrastructure are 
already tuned for performance as far as is possible the only things you 
can do when using the NBU Oracle standard agent are tune the number of 
channels/streams and the block size in the RMAN script as mentioned.  If 
you are not a DBA you should push this task over to a collegue who is as 
this is straight forward for someone who understands RMAN.
Also as mentioned you could also look at the options available with the 
NBU advanced client which may improve performance, however they will also 
probably make the configuration significantly more complex.....

thanks Andy.






"Atif Munir" <atif76 AT gmail DOT com>
21/03/2006 11:56

 
        To:     "andrew.x.smith AT jpmchase DOT com" <andrew.x.smith AT 
jpmchase DOT com>
        cc:     veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
        Subject:        Re: [Veritas-bu] backup speed


thanks a lot.

Now the only issue is with rman backups....rest are at pretty good speed. 
but rman backup are still slow.

As i am not dba so i am confused to figure out the issue which i need to 
fix in the rman script which is there in netbackup to do rman backup.

Regards,
atif

On 3/21/06, andrew.x.smith AT jpmchase DOT com <andrew.x.smith AT jpmchase DOT 
com > wrote:

Hi Atif, 

  to be honest with only two clients this is already pretty decent 
performance. The fact you have big box with a load of CPUs is actually not 
going to be the deciding factor in the preformance you are seeing, the 
performance will be related to the disk hardware (IOs per sec performance 
is very important), HBA/SCSI controller hardware, filesystem type, file 
size etc etc. As mentioned already if you are using the standard Oracle 
agent this will probably not give you blindingly fast performance. If you 
are still unsatisfied with the performance you could consider using the 
advanced client which I think provides support for RMAN proxy copy which 
may speed things up....  What level of performance are you expecting? 

                                thanks Andy. 





"Atif Munir" < atif76 AT gmail DOT com> 
Sent by: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu 
21/03/2006 10:44 
        
        To:        "WEAVER, Simon" <simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net > 
        cc:        veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu 

        Subject:        Re: [Veritas-bu] backup speed



Thanks to all who reply to my question.

So far here are the things which i have achieved.

If i start backup of two different client I am getting 100MB per sec
on the total.
But for a single box this speed does not go above than 50. Although
there is no activity. and the box is not loaded.and its a good machine
SF6900.



On 3/21/06, Atif Munir <atif76 AT gmail DOT com> wrote:
> hi.
> if i start two backup then i am getting 30MB/sec + 50MB/sec ....but
> when the one ended i am unable to get the better speed on the other.
>
>
> On 3/20/06, WEAVER, Simon <simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net> wrote:
> >
> > ~Hi
> > What sort of clients are you backing up?
> > Are they running AV software on them?
> > Does any of them run intensive disk I/O on them?
> > Are they on the same LAN
> > How are they configured on the Network.
> >
> > A lot of questions, which if you can answer on the list may help to 
isolate
> > the issue or issues
> >
> > Simon Weaver
> > Technical Support
> > Windows Domain Administrator
> >
> > EADS Astrium
> > Tel: 02392-708598
> >
> > Email: Simon.Weaver AT Astrium.eads DOT net
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Atif Munir [mailto:atif76 AT gmail DOT com]
> > Sent: 20 March 2006 10:57
> > To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> > Subject: [Veritas-bu] backup speed
> >
> >
> > I have a gigabit ethernet. Recently i have installed 5 LTO Gen 3 
drives. But
> > I am not getting a very good speed. As a total I am getting 100Mb/sec, 
and
> > it take a lot of time to finish my backup.
> >
> > Why I could not get a good speed.
> >
> > Regards,
> > atif
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Veritas-bu maillist  -  Veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
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disseminate or otherwise deal with it.
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EADS Astrium Limited.
> > Nothing in this email shall bind EADS Astrium Limited in any contract 
or obligation.
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">If you think the rest of your NetBackup and 
network infrastructure are already tuned for performance as far as is possible 
the only things you can do when using the NBU Oracle standard agent are tune 
the number of channels/streams and the block size in the RMAN script as 
mentioned. &nbsp;If you are not a DBA you should push this task over to a 
collegue who is as this is straight forward for someone who understands 
RMAN.</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Also as mentioned you could also look at the 
options available with the NBU advanced client which may improve performance, 
however they will also probably make the configuration significantly more 
complex.....</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">thanks Andy.</font>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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<td><font size=1 face="sans-serif"><b>&quot;Atif Munir&quot; &lt;atif76 AT 
gmail DOT com&gt;</b></font>
<p><font size=1 face="sans-serif">21/03/2006 11:56</font>
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<td><font size=1 face="Arial">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; </font>
<br><font size=1 face="sans-serif">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; To: &nbsp; 
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&quot;andrew.x.smith AT jpmchase DOT com&quot; 
&lt;andrew.x.smith AT jpmchase DOT com&gt;</font>
<br><font size=1 face="sans-serif">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; cc: &nbsp; 
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</font>
<br><font size=1 face="sans-serif">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Subject: &nbsp; 
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;Re: [Veritas-bu] backup speed</font></table>
<br>
<br>
<br><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">thanks a lot.<br>
<br>
Now the only issue is with rman backups....rest are at pretty good speed. but 
rman backup are still slow.<br>
<br>
As i am not dba so i am confused to figure out the issue which i need to fix in 
the rman script which is there in netbackup to do rman backup.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
atif<br>
</font>
<br><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">On 3/21/06, </font><a 
href=mailto:andrew.x.smith AT jpmchase DOT com><font size=3 color=blue 
face="Times New Roman"><b><u>andrew.x.smith AT jpmchase DOT 
com</u></b></font></a><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> &lt;</font><a 
href=mailto:andrew.x.smith AT jpmchase DOT com><font size=3 color=blue 
face="Times New Roman"><u>andrew.x.smith AT jpmchase DOT com 
</u></font></a><font size=3 face="Times New Roman">&gt; wrote:</font>
<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
Hi Atif,</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> <br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
 &nbsp;to be honest with only two clients this is already pretty decent 
performance. The fact you have big box with a load of CPUs is actually not 
going to be the deciding factor in the preformance you are seeing, the 
performance will be related to the disk hardware (IOs per sec performance is 
very important), HBA/SCSI controller hardware, filesystem type, file size etc 
etc. As mentioned already if you are using the standard Oracle agent this will 
probably not give you blindingly fast performance. If you are still unsatisfied 
with the performance you could consider using the advanced client which I think 
provides support for RMAN proxy copy which may speed things up.... &nbsp;What 
level of performance are you expecting?</font><font size=3 face="Times New 
Roman"> <br>
</font><font size=2 face="sans-serif"><br>
 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;thanks Andy.</font><font size=3 face="Times 
New Roman"> <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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<td width=42%><font size=1 face="sans-serif"><b>&quot;Atif Munir&quot; 
&lt;</b></font><a href=mailto:atif76 AT gmail DOT com target=_blank><font 
size=1 color=blue face="sans-serif"><b><u> atif76 AT gmail DOT 
com</u></b></font></a><font size=1 face="sans-serif"><b>&gt;</b></font><font 
size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font>
<br><font size=1 face="sans-serif">Sent by: </font><a 
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target=_blank><font size=1 color=blue face="sans-serif"><u>veritas-bu-admin AT 
mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</u></font></a><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> 
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<p><font size=1 face="sans-serif">21/03/2006 10:44</font><font size=3 
face="Times New Roman"> </font>
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</font><font size=1 face="sans-serif"><br>
 &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;To: &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&quot;WEAVER, 
Simon&quot; &lt;</font><a href=mailto:simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net 
target=_blank><font size=1 color=blue face="sans-serif"><u>simon.weaver AT 
astrium.eads DOT net </u></font></a><font size=1 
face="sans-serif">&gt;</font><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"> </font><font 
size=1 face="sans-serif"><br>
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href="mailto:veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu" target=_blank><font 
size=1 color=blue face="sans-serif"><u>veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT 
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[Veritas-bu] backup speed</font></table>
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Thanks to all who reply to my question.<br>
<br>
So far here are the things which i have achieved.<br>
<br>
If i start backup of two different client I am getting 100MB per sec<br>
on the total.<br>
But for a single box this speed does not go above than 50. Although<br>
there is no activity. and the box is not loaded.and its a good machine<br>
SF6900.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
On 3/21/06, Atif Munir &lt;</font><a href=mailto:atif76 AT gmail DOT com 
target=_blank><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><u>atif76 AT gmail DOT 
com</u></font></a><font size=2 face="Courier New">&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; hi.<br>
&gt; if i start two backup then i am getting 30MB/sec + 50MB/sec ....but<br>
&gt; when the one ended i am unable to get the better speed on the other.<br>
&gt;</font>
<br><font size=2 face="Courier New">&gt;<br>
&gt; On 3/20/06, WEAVER, Simon &lt;</font><a href=mailto:simon.weaver AT 
astrium.eads DOT net target=_blank><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier 
New"><u>simon.weaver AT astrium.eads DOT net</u></font></a><font size=2 
face="Courier New">&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; ~Hi<br>
&gt; &gt; What sort of clients are you backing up?<br>
&gt; &gt; Are they running AV software on them?<br>
&gt; &gt; Does any of them run intensive disk I/O on them?<br>
&gt; &gt; Are they on the same LAN<br>
&gt; &gt; How are they configured on the Network.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; A lot of questions, which if you can answer on the list may help to 
isolate<br>
&gt; &gt; the issue or issues<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Simon Weaver<br>
&gt; &gt; Technical Support<br>
&gt; &gt; Windows Domain Administrator<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; EADS Astrium<br>
&gt; &gt; Tel: 02392-708598<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Email: </font><a href=mailto:Simon.Weaver AT Astrium.eads DOT net 
target=_blank><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><u>Simon.Weaver AT 
Astrium.eads DOT net</u></font></a><font size=2 face="Courier New"><br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
&gt; &gt; From: Atif Munir [mailto:</font><a href=mailto:atif76 AT gmail DOT 
com target=_blank><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><u>atif76 AT gmail 
DOT com</u></font></a><font size=2 face="Courier New">]<br>
&gt; &gt; Sent: 20 March 2006 10:57<br>
&gt; &gt; To: </font><a href="mailto:veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu" 
target=_blank><font size=2 color=blue face="Courier New"><u>veritas-bu AT 
mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</u></font></a><font size=2 face="Courier New"><br>
&gt; &gt; Subject: [Veritas-bu] backup speed<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; I have a gigabit ethernet. Recently i have installed 5 LTO Gen 3 
drives. But<br>
&gt; &gt; I am not getting a very good speed. As a total I am getting 
100Mb/sec, and<br>
&gt; &gt; it take a lot of time to finish my backup.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Why I could not get a good speed.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Regards,<br>
&gt; &gt; atif<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
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