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[Veritas-bu] Backing up Remote Sites

2006-02-16 10:52:44
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backing up Remote Sites
From: pkeating AT bank-banque-canada DOT ca (Paul Keating)
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2006 10:52:44 -0500
Not at all...didn't even consider tuning for the WAN (10Mb/s
w/encryption)
The idea of an alt interface for those connections might be a good one.

I'm also fighting with tuning GigE cards.
Our VAR sent me a link to sunsolve doc 81911...looks like it might help
in my case.

Paul

> -----Original Message-----
> From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu 
> [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of 
> william.d.brown AT gsk DOT com
> Sent: February 16, 2006 9:14 AM
> To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Backing up Remote Sites
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> Did you put much time into tuning the TCP/IP parameters for 
> the "Bandwidth 
> Delay Product" over the link?   I've been doing a lot of 
> reading about TCP 
> tuning and a lot of it seems to relate to WAN link tuning for 
> performance. 
>  Basically keeping the pipe full by turning on window scaling 
> and setting 
> an appropriate TCP window size.   People report very large 
> improvements 
> after playing around with the settings, but it does depend on having 
> separate WAN interfaces for backups to e.g. the interface 
> used for short 
> packets like telnet or a web server.
> 
> I don't have any WAN links to deal with, I'm just trying to 
> get the most 
> out of the GbE and 100Mbps LAN.   Mind bending stuff, 
> especially as each 
> Windows version changes the way  it works.
> 
> I would be interested if anyone has worked out what works and 
> what does 
> not.
> 
> William D L Brown
> 
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> "Paul Keating" <pkeating AT bank-banque-canada DOT ca> 
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> We have 5 remote offices, each with 1 unix file server that's 
> backed up, 
> and 0 IT staff.
> We back them up with a nightly incremental, a weekly 
> synthetic, and a full 
> once a month. (about 24 hours for a full ~20 Gigs)
> They get backed up to a small DSSU sitting on a couple 
> concatenated local 
> drives, and staged to tape daily.
>  
> Works great.
>  
> I agree, something like the tacit system would be nice.
>  
> Paul
> -----Original Message-----
> From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu 
> [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Martin, 
> Jonathan (Contractor)
> Sent: February 15, 2006 5:32 PM
> To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Backing up Remote Sites
> 
> Speaking from experience here, if the remote site is a small 
> office with 
> 1-5 servers and a small library, DO NOT USE NETBACKUP!
>  
> BackupExec works just fine, and it MUCH easier to manage!!
>  
> We are considering purchasing devices from Tacit (
> http://www.tacitnetworks.com/) which not only replicate data 
> back to our 
> main datacenter to be backed up, but they also (supposedly) 
> replicate user 
> data (files) email / exchange DBs and Active Directory 
> functions.  Worst 
> case scenario, if the local box goes down everyone grabs the "master" 
> files from the WAN.
>  
> Admittedly I'm not in the group that is testing this device, but I've 
> heard nothing but rave reviews so far.
>  
> -Jonathan
> 
> From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu 
> [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of 
> Cornely, 
> David
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 4:16 PM
> To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Backing up Remote Sites
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> You might want to consider something like Data Domain or a 
> product like 
> Riverbed.
> I like the idea of Riverbed (a WAN acceleration device), 
> where you could 
> bring your file servers back to the local site, backing them 
> up there, and 
> then your remote users would access the file server via the WAN, with 
> Riverbed devices on each end.  The idea is that this device 
> makes the file 
> server appear local to the remote users.
>  
> Any way you cut it remote site backups are a pain and the 
> fewer autonomous 
> NBU environments you have the better off you will be.
>  
> -----Original Message-----
> From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu 
> [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of j. 
> okabayashi
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 10:44
> To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> Subject: [Veritas-bu] Backing up Remote Sites
>  
> All,
> I just wanted to get an idea of what everyone is doing to back up any 
> remote sites they may have. I am running NBU 5.1 MP4 on W2K3 
> servers. I 
> have a few sites with a single DC that is acting as file 
> server, and print 
> server. As of right now, these single servers are not getting 
> backed up. 
> Can NBU be used for this or should we look into something else? Any 
> insight would be appreciated. 
>  
> Thanks,
> Jason
> 
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