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[Veritas-bu] Media Write Errors, Exit Status 84

2005-01-05 11:36:33
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Media Write Errors, Exit Status 84
From: dlogcher AT MIT DOT EDU (Dan Logcher)
Date: Wed, 05 Jan 2005 11:36:33 -0500
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I have 5 Media servers connected with SSO to 10 LTO Gen II's and one 
server is constantly reporting 84's on
it's backups.  I've found that Netbackup is very particular and will 
start freaking out over nothing..

--
Dan

David Turner wrote:

> I have a STK9714 with 6 Quantum DLT 7000 drives and a L180 with 10 
> Quantum SDLT drives and over the years have seen this problem. After 
> working with Tech Support, We never figured out the root of the 
> problem but I was told to alter the cleaning schedule of the drives, I 
> also replaced over 100 hundred tapes, and several tape drives were 
> replaced.
>
>  
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu 
> [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of Jim 
> Langston
> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 9:50 AM
> To: Cierkowski, Wayne; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Media Write Errors, Exit Status 84
>
>  
>
> I have the same setup as you except we are using LTO2 drives.  I have 
> had about 15 media write errors in the last 15 months.  I don't recall 
> how many tapes have been frozen, but it has been more then normal in 
> my opinion.  We are running Datacenter 4.5 MP5 here.  We use Maxell 
> tapes.  I have one tape drive that constantly downs itself, but 
> diagnostics doesn't show anything on the L700e. 
>
>  
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jim
>
>  
>
>  
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> From: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu 
> [mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu] On Behalf Of 
> Cierkowski, Wayne
> Sent: Wednesday, January 05, 2005 9:07 AM
> To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
> Subject: [Veritas-bu] Media Write Errors, Exit Status 84
>
> I'd like to get some feed back as to everyone's experience concerning 
> Media write errors. I have 4 sites that are almost identical, Compaq 
> servers, Compaq HBA's, STK L700's and SDLT320 drives. The only 
> difference between these sites would be number of processors in the 
> server, amount of memory in the server and the number of SDLT drives. 
> One site in particular has racked up over 182 frozen tapes since I 
> implemented the backup solution which is only 22 months old.
>
>  
>
> First question, does 182 frozen media in only 22 months seem to be a 
> high rate? Media is always brand new and either Fuji or Quantum.
>
>  
>
> STK has been working with us to try to resolve this issue and actually 
> gave us 120 brand new tapes last week. We pulled out all of our 
> existing tapes and loaded up the 120 new ones. Over the weekend we had 
> 3 CRC's media write errors. The percentage seems kind of high.
>
>  
>
> I'm running NetBackup 4.5 at the MP6 level.
>
>  
>
> Is this a normal level for CRC's with SDLT?
>
>  
>
> Is it the technology?
>
>  
>
> Anyone else out there having similar issues?
>
>  
>
> We are actually at the point of considering changing technology to LTO 
> drives and media. We have another small site due for replacement and 
> so far that seems to be the road we are taking because of the SDLT CRC 
> issue.
>
>  
>
> Many thanks  
>
>  
>
>  
>
> ******************************************************
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I have 5 Media servers connected with SSO to 10 LTO Gen II's and one
server is constantly reporting 84's on<br>
it's backups.&nbsp; I've found that Netbackup is very particular and will
start freaking out over nothing.. <br>
<br>
--<br>
Dan<br>
<br>
David Turner wrote:<br>
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  <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: navy;">I have a
STK9714 with 6 Quantum DLT 7000
drives and a L180 with 10 Quantum SDLT drives and over the years have
seen this
problem. After working with Tech Support, We never figured out the root
of the
problem but I was told to alter the cleaning schedule of the drives, I
also
replaced over 100 hundred tapes, and several tape drives were 
replaced.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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bold;">From:</span></font></b><font
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 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma;">
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT 
mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu">veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT 
mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu">mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT 
edu</a>] <b><span
 style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Jim Langston<br>
  <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday,
January 05, 2005
9:50 AM<br>
  <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Cierkowski, Wayne;
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:veritas-bu AT 
mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu">veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</a><br>
  <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> RE:
[Veritas-bu] Media
Write Errors, Exit Status 84</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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  <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="blue" face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;">I have the
same setup as you except we are
using LTO2 drives.&nbsp; I have had about 15 media write errors in the last
15
months.&nbsp; I don't recall how many tapes have been frozen, but it has
been
more then normal in my opinion.&nbsp; We are running Datacenter 4.5 MP5
here.&nbsp; We use Maxell tapes.&nbsp; I have one tape drive that constantly
downs itself, but diagnostics doesn't show anything on the L700e.&nbsp; 
</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
 style="font-size: 12pt;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><font color="blue" face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; color: blue;">Thanks,<br>
  <br>
Jim</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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bold;">From:</span></font></b><font
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT 
mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu">veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</a>
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT 
mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu">mailto:veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT 
edu</a>] <b><span
 style="font-weight: bold;">On Behalf Of </span></b>Cierkowski, Wayne<br>
  <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Wednesday,
January 05, 2005
9:07 AM<br>
  <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b>
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:veritas-bu AT 
mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu">veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</a><br>
  <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [Veritas-bu]
Media Write
Errors, Exit Status 84</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
  <div>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">I&#8217;d like to get some feed
back as to everyone&#8217;s
experience concerning Media write errors. I have 4 sites that are
almost
identical, Compaq servers, Compaq HBA&#8217;s, STK L700&#8217;s and SDLT320
drives. The only difference between these sites would be number of
processors
in the server, amount of memory in the server and the number of SDLT
drives. One
site in particular has racked up over 182 frozen tapes since I
implemented the
backup solution which is only 22 months old. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
 style="font-size: 12pt;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">First question, does 182
frozen media in only 22 months seem
to be a high rate? Media is always brand new and either <st1:City
 w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Fuji</st1:place></st1:City> or 
Quantum.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
 style="font-size: 12pt;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">STK has been working with
us to try to resolve this issue
and actually gave us 120 brand new tapes last week. We pulled out all
of our
existing tapes and loaded up the 120 new ones. Over the weekend we had
3
CRC&#8217;s media write errors. The percentage seems kind of high. 
</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
 style="font-size: 12pt;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">I&#8217;m running NetBackup 4.5
at the MP6 level. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
 style="font-size: 12pt;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Is this a normal level
for CRC&#8217;s with SDLT? </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
 style="font-size: 12pt;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Is it the technology? 
</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
 style="font-size: 12pt;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Anyone else out there
having similar issues? </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
 style="font-size: 12pt;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">We are actually at the
point of considering changing
technology to LTO drives and media. We have another small site due for
replacement and so far that seems to be the road we are taking because
of the
SDLT CRC issue. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span
 style="font-size: 12pt;">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
  <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span
 style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Many thanks 
&nbsp;</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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Dan Logcher  W91-219C ASST UNIX Admin
Massachusetts Institute of Technology
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edu">dlogcher AT mit DOT edu</a>         617-324-5800
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