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Yes, if you need something today, but it is only through VERITAS
consulting.
Global Operations Manager, a.k.a. Service Manager for Storage, a.k.a
CommandCentral is supposed to do the same thing and then some, isn't it?
Is there anything in StorageTrak that you're aware of that won't be
included in the new product's first release? If so, is it eventually
coming in a later release?
- Scott
Dennis Hartvickson <dennis.hartvickson AT veritas DOT com>
Sent by: veritas-bu-admin AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
09/18/2003 11:00 PM
To: "'Paul.Griese AT TeleCheck DOT com'"
<IMCEAMAILTO-Paul+2EGriese+40TeleCheck+2Ecom AT veritas DOT com>
cc: "'Fabbro.Andrew AT cnf DOT com'" <Fabbro.Andrew AT cnf DOT
com>,
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Subject: FW: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 4.5 Advance Reporter
Gentlemen,
There is a product that would likely meet your needs from Veritas called
StorageTrak.
Check it out with your local Veritas team.
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From: Paul.Griese AT TeleCheck DOT com [mailto:Paul.Griese AT TeleCheck DOT
com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 1:24 PM
To: Fabbro.Andrew AT cnf DOT com; dcaparas AT borland DOT com;
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 4.5 Advance Reporter
I agree. I have Project Managers who always ask for statistics that NBAR
cannot provide. For example, I was asked to provide a report that shows
all
successful Restores, for an entire month, of three particular clients in
which the restore purpose was only for our "Duplication" project. From
what
I can see, NBAR cannot be that specific in its restore reporting - it will
show you all restores for all clients during a certain time period, but
you
cannot filter it to display specific clients. The lack of a way to modify,
or filter, the report display, is the problem.
Instead, we wind up having to write scripts, or use the command line, for
almost every single Manager's or Departmental request.
Paul Griese
System Management
713-331-6454
-----Original Message-----
From: Fabbro, Andrew P [ mailto:Fabbro.Andrew AT cnf DOT com
<mailto:Fabbro.Andrew AT cnf DOT com> ]
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 12:55 PM
To: 'Dennis Caparas'; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 4.5 Advance Reporter
Questionable benefit. The web reports are OK, but not modify-able.
Really,
I don't see a lot of value in them, except to publish for external users.
But if said users want something the default reports don't give, you're
out
of luck.
You can have direct access to the NBAR SQL (storied in a MySQL database)
to
do your own custom reports, but
(1) the schema is not properly documented (i.e., it's wrong)
(2) some fields are apparently not updated
(3) it's not inline-tape-copy-aware
(4) there is *no support* for querying the database. Even though they
document the schema, Veritas support will not answer questions (like "why
doesn't this column exist when it's shown in the schema" or "why is this a
different type than the schema shows").
We're looking at different products right now on reporting. Aptare looks
interesting. I've heard good and bad about Bocada but haven't really
examined it.
--
Drew Fabbro [fabbro.andrew AT cnf DOT com]
Unix Systems Group
Desk: 503-450-3374
Cell: 503-701-0369
-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Caparas [ mailto:dcaparas AT borland DOT com
<mailto:dcaparas AT borland DOT com> ]
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 10:53 AM
To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 4.5 Advance Reporter
Hi admins,
Master server is Solaris 9 runnning Netbackup 4.5 MP3 .
My managers are looking for a reporting tool which can give some pretty
good
statistics. Please give your opinion about the Advance Reporter (
benefits,
functionality..etc.)
Thanks in advance,
Dennis
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<br><font size=2 face="Arial">Yes, if you need something today, but it is only
through VERITAS consulting.</font>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="Arial">Global Operations Manager, a.k.a. Service Manager
for Storage, a.k.a CommandCentral is supposed to do the same thing and then
some, isn't it? Is there anything in StorageTrak that you're aware of
that won't be included in the new product's first release? If so, is it
eventually coming in a later release?</font>
<br>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="Arial">- Scott</font>
<br>
<br>
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<td><font size=1 face="sans-serif"><b>Dennis Hartvickson <dennis.hartvickson
AT veritas DOT com></b></font>
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mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu</font>
<p><font size=1 face="sans-serif">09/18/2003 11:00 PM</font>
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<td><font size=1 face="Arial"> </font>
<br><font size=1 face="sans-serif"> To:
"'Paul.Griese AT TeleCheck DOT com'"
<IMCEAMAILTO-Paul+2EGriese+40TeleCheck+2Ecom AT veritas DOT com></font>
<br><font size=1 face="sans-serif"> cc:
"'Fabbro.Andrew AT cnf DOT com'"
<Fabbro.Andrew AT cnf DOT com>, "'dcaparas AT borland DOT com'"
<dcaparas AT borland DOT com>, "'veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn
DOT edu'" <veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu></font>
<br><font size=1 face="sans-serif"> Subject:
FW: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 4.5 Advance
Reporter</font></table>
<br>
<br>
<br><font size=2 face="Courier New"> Gentlemen,<br>
<br>
There is a product that would likely meet your needs from Veritas called<br>
StorageTrak.<br>
<br>
Check it out with your local Veritas team.<br>
<br>
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From: Paul.Griese AT TeleCheck DOT com [mailto:Paul.Griese AT TeleCheck DOT
com] <br>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 1:24 PM<br>
To: Fabbro.Andrew AT cnf DOT com; dcaparas AT borland DOT com;<br>
veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu<br>
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 4.5 Advance Reporter<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
I agree. I have Project Managers who always ask for statistics that NBAR<br>
cannot provide. For example, I was asked to provide a report that shows all<br>
successful Restores, for an entire month, of three particular clients in<br>
which the restore purpose was only for our "Duplication" project.
From what<br>
I can see, NBAR cannot be that specific in its restore reporting - it will<br>
show you all restores for all clients during a certain time period, but you<br>
cannot filter it to display specific clients. The lack of a way to modify,<br>
or filter, the report display, is the problem.<br>
<br>
Instead, we wind up having to write scripts, or use the command line, for<br>
almost every single Manager's or Departmental request.<br>
<br>
Paul Griese <br>
System Management <br>
713-331-6454 <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message----- <br>
From: Fabbro, Andrew P [ mailto:Fabbro.Andrew AT cnf DOT com<br>
<mailto:Fabbro.Andrew AT cnf DOT com> ] <br>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 12:55 PM <br>
To: 'Dennis Caparas'; veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT edu <br>
Subject: RE: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 4.5 Advance Reporter <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Questionable benefit. The web reports are OK, but not modify-able.
Really,<br>
I don't see a lot of value in them, except to publish for external users.<br>
But if said users want something the default reports don't give, you're out<br>
of luck.<br>
<br>
You can have direct access to the NBAR SQL (storied in a MySQL database) to<br>
do your own custom reports, but <br>
<br>
(1) the schema is not properly documented (i.e., it's wrong) <br>
(2) some fields are apparently not updated <br>
(3) it's not inline-tape-copy-aware <br>
(4) there is *no support* for querying the database. Even though they<br>
document the schema, Veritas support will not answer questions (like
"why<br>
doesn't this column exist when it's shown in the schema" or "why is
this a<br>
different type than the schema shows").<br>
<br>
We're looking at different products right now on reporting. Aptare
looks<br>
interesting. I've heard good and bad about Bocada but haven't really<br>
examined it.<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
-- <br>
Drew Fabbro [fabbro.andrew AT cnf DOT com] <br>
Unix Systems Group <br>
Desk: 503-450-3374 <br>
Cell: 503-701-0369 <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
-----Original Message----- <br>
From: Dennis Caparas [ mailto:dcaparas AT borland DOT com<br>
<mailto:dcaparas AT borland DOT com> ] <br>
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 10:53 AM </font>
<br><font size=2 face="Courier New">To: veritas-bu AT mailman.eng.auburn DOT
edu <br>
Subject: [Veritas-bu] Netbackup 4.5 Advance Reporter <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Hi admins, <br>
<br>
Master server is Solaris 9 runnning Netbackup 4.5 MP3 . <br>
My managers are looking for a reporting tool which can give some pretty good<br>
statistics. Please give your opinion about the Advance Reporter ( benefits,<br>
<br>
functionality..etc.) <br>
<br>
Thanks in advance, <br>
Dennis <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
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