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Re: [Networker] Technical advisory out today about Windows 2008 disaster recovery

2009-11-25 10:28:32
Subject: Re: [Networker] Technical advisory out today about Windows 2008 disaster recovery
From: "joey.admin AT gmail DOT com" <joey.admin AT GMAIL DOT COM>
To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 15:26:04 +0000 
It's like neither Microsoft nor EMC wants to spell this out in plain
english.

EMC is saying that you need to take precoution when backing up Server 2008
and point to Microsoft.

Microsoft then says it has a new feature to make BMR restores more reliable
and faster. I find nothing about that you have to rely solely on that
"feature".

My understanding I get from reading between the lines is this, and please
correct me if I'm wrong:

-You can't recover Windows server 2008 machine is a case you loose the OS in
a disaster, with NetWorker only.
-This is also a problem with other non Microsoft backup products such as TSM
and NetBackup.

Regards, Joey


2009/11/25 Debbie Furgat Dunn <askdebhow AT hotmail DOT com>

> Hi,
>
>  Apologies, as you are all aware of by now, there is a problem with the
> posting.  The Powerlink team is aware of the issue and working to resolve
> it.  In the meantime, the same information is also documented in NetWorker
> Procedure Generator just separated into different use case scenarios.
>
>
>
> If NPG has not already been downloaded it can be obtained by navigating to:
>
> Home>Support>Product and Diagnostic Tools> NetWorker Procedure Generator on
> Powerlink
>
>
>
> If you have already installed it, just open NPG and the autoupdate feature
> will provide the new content.  With this release of NPG you will be prompted
> to allow NPG to anonymously provide feedback to track which procedures and
> selections are being generated.  Please select Yes at this prompt.  This
> will allow us to determine which procedures are most commonly used and allow
> us to provide focused future enhancements and new procedures to better serve
> the NPG user base.  If you have issues with the installation or autoudpate
> feature please email pg-feedback AT emc DOT com
>
>
>
> Here's a summary of all the new procedures released on Friday:
>
>
>
> Recovering with NetWorker
> New procedures surrounding Recover scenarios with NetWorker include:
>
> How to restore from a save set which is in an expired state (navigate to
> Recovering with NetWorker ->Restore from a save set in expired state
> How to perform a Windows 2008 disaster recovery (navigate to Recovering
> with NetWorker ->Disaster Recoveries ->Windows 2008 Offline Restore)
>
> Configuration scenarios
> New procedures surrounding common NetWorker configurations include:
>
> How to configure VCB backups with NetWorker 7.6 when virtual center is used
> How to configure VCB backups with NetWorker 7.6 when virtual center is not
> used
> How to configure NetWorker 7.6 to backup to an Atmos cloud device
> How to configure Networker 7.6 to backup to an On Premise Atmos device
>  How to configure Windows 2008 offline client initiated backups for
> disaster recoveries (navigate to Configuration -> Filesystem Operations)
> How to configure Windows 2008 offline server initiated backups for disaster
> recoveries of a new Windows 2008 NetWorker client (navigate to Configuration
> -> Filesystem Operations)
>  How to configure Windows 2008 offline server initiated backups for
> disaster recoveries of an existing Windows 2008 NetWorker client
> (navigate to Configuration -> Filesystem Operations)
>
>
>
> HTH
> Debbie
>
>
>
> Debbie Dunn
> Mgr. Product Management
> Service Planning & Systems
> EMC Global Services
> Email: dunn_debbie AT emc DOT com
> Phone: 1-905-315-4711
>
> Check it out NetWorker Information Lives Here:
> https://support.emc.com/products/NetWorker.asp
>
> Spare me the grim litany of the "realist," give me the unrealistic
> aspirations of the optimist any day.
> -Colin Powell
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 09:21:02 -0500
> > From: mhuff AT OX DOT COM
> > Subject: Re: [Networker] Technical advisory out today about Windows 2008
> disaster recovery
> > To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
> >
> > It doesn't show up there for me. It lists 15 documents, none of which
> deal with Windows 2008.
> >
> > ----
> > Matthew Huff | One Manhattanville Rd
> > OTA Management LLC | Purchase, NY 10577
> > http://www.ox.com | Phone: 914-460-4039
> > aim: matthewbhuff | Fax: 914-460-4139
> >
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jones_Michael2 AT emc DOT com [mailto:Jones_Michael2 AT emc DOT com]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:16 PM
> > > To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU; Matthew Huff
> > > Subject: RE: [Networker] Technical advisory out today about Windows
> 2008 disaster recovery
> > >
> > > The document can be found on EMC PowerLink under Home > Support >
> Technical Documentation and
> > > Advisories > Software ~ J-O ~ Documentation > NetWorker Family >
> Technical Notes.
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: EMC NetWorker discussion [mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT 
> > > EDU]
> On Behalf Of Matthew Huff
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 10:09 AM
> > > To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
> > > Subject: Re: [Networker] Technical advisory out today about Windows
> 2008 disaster recovery
> > >
> > > I think it may be powerlink permission error. Our account has never
> been setup correctly after them
> > > EMC / Legato merger.
> > >
> > > This is what I get:
> > >
> > > Access Violation
> > >
> > > The content you are trying to access is unavailable. This content may
> have expired, the link may be
> > > incorrect or you may not be entitled to access it with your account.
> Click here to return to the
> > > Powerlink home page.
> > >
> > > We apologize for any inconvenience.
> > >
> > >
> > > I tried your link and also
> > >
> https://powerlink.emc.com/km/live1/en_US/Offering_Technical/Technical_Documentation/300-010-339.pdf
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----
> > > Matthew Huff | One Manhattanville Rd
> > > OTA Management LLC | Purchase, NY 10577
> > > http://www.ox.com | Phone: 914-460-4039
> > > aim: matthewbhuff | Fax: 914-460-4139
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ole Hermansen [mailto:o.hermansen AT tdcadsl DOT dk]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 12:56 PM
> > > To: 'EMC NetWorker discussion'; Matthew Huff
> > > Subject: RE: [Networker] Technical advisory out today about Windows
> 2008 disaster recovery
> > >
> > > Hi Matthew.
> > >
> > > I had the same problem, but when you open the ETA:esg109074
> > > http://solutions.emc.com/emcsolutionview.asp?id=esg109074 , you need
> to
> > > follow the link
> > >
> https://powerlink.emc.com/nsepn/webapps/btg548664833igtcuup4826/km/live1/en_
> > > US/Offering_Technical/Technical_Documentation/300-010-339.pdf and then
> i
> > > works, I am doing it right now.
> > >
> > > Generaly speaking I find it very difficult to find "stuff" on
> Powerlink, but
> > > this article iss well hidden.
> > >
> > > Best regards
> > > Ole Hermansen
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: EMC NetWorker discussion [mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT 
> > > EDU]
> On
> > > Behalf Of Matthew Huff
> > > Sent: 24. november 2009 14:53
> > > To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
> > > Subject: Re: [Networker] Technical advisory out today about Windows
> 2008
> > > disaster recovery
> > >
> > >
> > > What's worse, I cannot find the article it refers to:
> > >
> > > "WINDOWS SERVER 2008 OFFLINE SYSTEM RECOVERY USING WINDOWS SERVER
> BACKUP
> > > WITH NETWORKER
> > >
> > > The link is broken and search doesn't find it.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----
> > > Matthew Huff | One Manhattanville Rd
> > > OTA Management LLC | Purchase, NY 10577
> > > http://www.ox.com | Phone: 914-460-4039
> > > aim: matthewbhuff | Fax: 914-460-4139
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: EMC NetWorker discussion [mailto:NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT 
> > > EDU]
> On
> > > Behalf Of joey.admin AT gmail DOT com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, November 24, 2009 8:09 AM
> > > To: NETWORKER AT LISTSERV.TEMPLE DOT EDU
> > > Subject: Re: [Networker] Technical advisory out today about Windows
> 2008
> > > disaster recovery
> > >
> > > If I understand this correctly, then it's not possible to do a disaster
> > > recovery of Server 2008 with NetWorker!?
> > >
> > > unless you use NetWorker in conjuction with a Windows utility to take
> the
> > > system state backup.
> > >
> > > Somehow this is not completely clear in this article esg109074 on
> Powerlink.
> > > And the MS article it points to, is not making things more clear.
> > >
> > > Wow!
> > >
> > > Joey
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2009/11/21 Browning, David <DBrown AT lsuhsc DOT edu>
> > >
> > > > Just added some steps to our disaster recovery on Windows 2008
> > > > servers.
> > > >
> > > > Check this out on powerlink:
> > > >
> > > > EMC Technical Advisory esg109074: NetWorker: Support for Disaster
> > > > Recovery of Windows 2008
> > > >
> > > > David M. Browning Jr.
> > > > IT Project Coordinator Enterprise Backups and Help Desk
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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