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Re: [ADSM-L] TSM being abandoned?

2008-04-20 08:32:18
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM being abandoned?
From: "Hart, Charles A" <charles_hart AT UHC DOT COM>
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 07:26:37 -0500
1) With the acquisition of Diligent will the TSM Dedupe still be part of 6.x? 
With the Diligent Device you can have multiple TSM instances to get a better 
overall De-Dupe.  Example we have one p570 with two TSM Instances (Unix Prod 
w/Oracle and the Non-Prod with Oracle and go to the same Diligent device thus 
the factoring is from 10 to 18:1 (of course our DBA's do daily fulls)  The 
other thought is have the TSM Level De-Dupe a option that can be enabled or 
disabled.

2) It will be interesting to see the DB2 performance.... 

4) VTL's are actually a good thing for TSM is you have good daily operational 
backup retentions, so things can live an die in the VTL.  TSM should be 
managing the volumes regardless of a VTL being in the mix... The only concept 
I've heard where the VTL manages volumes if when you have VTL Replicating to 
another VTL with out TSM's involvement.





-----Original Message-----
From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU] On Behalf Of 
Francisco Molero
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 6:33 AM
To: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Subject: Re: [ADSM-L] TSM being abandoned?

Hello colleagues,
 
TSM being abandoned ?
 
I don't know but IBM 6.1 will have much more functionality than previous 
versions. IBM has bought two companies FilesX and Diligent . FilesX will be add 
to TSM in Windows environments, and Diligent improves the dedup technologies.
 
First question : deduplication is very interesting for all backup software, but 
TSM has more necessities than dedup although in version 6.1 will be available. 
TSM doesn't need to backup the whole environment each weekend then dedup is 
more important for other backup sw. 
 
Second question : DB2 or TSM db, I am not an expert in DBs, but I think we will 
have better availability, performance with DB2. We will run an audit db 
online, and HADR will be available with DB2 ( I hope ). Nowadays I have several 
customers with DB size around 200 GBytes, this is a problem, I suppose DB2 can 
manage this TSM dbs better than TSM DB. 
 
Fourth question :  In my opinion VTLs provide not too much possibilities, in 
general VTLs aren't matures but it is ideal for lanfree backup. I don't like 
too much VTL can manage all volumes, I prefer TSM does that. TSM is working for 
many years and more or less works properly. But all VTL vendors want to sell a 
new solution, in many cases VTL is appliance with very high cost.
 
Regards,
 
    Fran

 

----- Mensaje original ----
De: Paul Zarnowski <psz1 AT CORNELL DOT EDU>
Para: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Enviado: sábado, 19 de abril, 2008 21:24:46
Asunto: Re: TSM being abandoned?

Timothy,

There was a discussion session about this at the Oxford TSM Symposium last 
fall, facilitated by some folks in TSM Development.  I cannot say what will be 
in the next version of TSM, but I can say that IBM appears to be well aware of 
this issue, and they have taken steps to listen to user feedback.  Time will 
tell what happens, of course, but at least they are listening.

..Paul


At 01:49 PM 4/18/2008, Timothy Hughes wrote:
>Remco Post wrote:
>
>>Timothy Hughes wrote:
>>
>>>Well, on that note  I have a "possible stupid question" does anyone 
>>>think it's will be possible for a customer to have a choice of 
>>>staying with the current TSM database if they liked they way it is 
>>>and still upgrade to TSM V6?  Sorry I was just curious
>>>
>>No, but you will have the option to stay with tsm v5.5 at least until 
>>tsm 6.2 has been released. My bet is that since 6.1 is a really big 
>>step (redesign, reimplementation of major parts of tsm), 6.2 will not 
>>be here for quite some time.
>>
>>--
>>
>>Met vriendelijke groeten,
>>
>>Remco Post
>
>
>Thanks Remco!
>
>Also,  Is there going to be a built in license calculator  in TSM V6? 
>Anyone


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