Hi Troy

As mentioned by others... you are correct there are no support for GWTSA - 
there are 3 ways to an supported backup (supported by Novell I mean):

 - Use a backupprogram with support for GWTSA!!! (... but I guess that's out of 
the question ;o) )
 - Do a "cold" Backup - close/start the GroupWise with the PRE- /POSTSCHEDULE 
Commands
 - Use the GWBACKUP and DBCOPY from a workstation to export these files!

... and then there is the unsupported version!!! - do a backup with an OFM 
(I'll recommend StBernard)... but make sure it's configured correctly! And 
please do notice that StBernard support NetWare, GroupWise and Tivoli - but 
neither IBM or Novell supports StBernard!

Best regards
Flemming

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Fra: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU]På vegne af
Troy Frank
Sendt: 7. juni 2004 15:31
Til: ADSM-L AT VM.MARIST DOT EDU
Emne: Re: TSM, Novell and Groupwise, a menage a trois from hell or a
polygamous match made in heaven?


TSM does not use the TSA's for doing Groupwise backups.  The only thing
you can really do is backup the domain/po directories using an Open File
Agent.  You are correct about TSM using the TSA's for files and NDS
however.



Troy Frank
Network Services
University of Wisconsin Medical Foundation
608.829.5384

>>> Steve_Harris AT HEALTH.QLD.GOV DOT AU 6/6/2004 11:26:12 PM >>>
Hi all,

This one is for Netware and groupwise admins.

I'm looking at putting TSM servers into some small sites which run
Netware servers. Part of the equation is that they run Groupwise post
offices as well.

I'm not a Novell person, but I've looked at the TSM, Novell and
Groupwise documentation and this is how it seems to me.

The SMDR component and TSAFS provide SMS services which allow objects
to be presented to a backup product. When you run *any* other product's
tsa, then the product's objects are expressed within the SMS object tree
and *should* therefore be accessible to any backup product which uses
SMS services.

As an example, the TSM product uses TSANDS to backup the edirectory
using exactly this mechanism.
However, the TSM client seems to have a different interface built in
for each TSA - to work with NDS objects, it is necessary to specify nds:
as part of the name, ie, NDS Support has been added into the TSM client
rather than extending the general functionality of SMS backup.

BackupExec can backup Groupwise objects as easily as any other SMS
object. I've heard that TSM cannot.

1. Is it still the case that TSM can't backup Groupwise objects?
2. Is my limited understanding of the Novell backup environment and its
interaction with TSM correct?
3. Is there any way to couple the Groupwise and TSM APIs other than
SMS? I'm aware of the DBCOPY and GWBACKUP utilities, but they leave a
lot to be desired and are not incremental in nature.


Many thanks for your comments

Steve.

PS I've only had the one reply to my post about backup rates for file
servers. Please, if you have any data, share it.


Steve Harris
AIX and TSM Admin
Queensland Health, Brisbane Australia




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